Its you or them

Category: Let's talk

Post 1 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:21:13

Would you kill to save yourself or a loved one..could you pull the trigger or pick up the knife...living in this bampots paradis..Yes..but the act would haunt me forever...

Post 2 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:23:48

to save my child, no question.

Post 3 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:26:08

Jeez that was quick: ok would you think about what you had done or would it never cross your mind..

Post 4 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:33:53

yes, I think it would haunt me for ever. if it was to save my child, I would do it, and I don't think I would regret it, but I think the fact I had killed another human being is something that would bother me tremendously.

Post 5 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:36:43

Its strange how few people think of doing it to save themselves a child ..I was really annoyed when Tony Martin was jailed for killing a burglur,right enough he has shown no remorse,possibly the judge saw something that worried him..

Post 6 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:40:30

I think in the instance of tony Martin the reason he was jailed was because he deliberately set a trap for the burgler, sure the guy was burgling his house, and in my view, he deserved what he got, but this guy basically lie in wait for him, and then shot him in the back as he ran off.. somewhat cowardly perhaps, and I guess the judge wanted to make an example of him. after all, two wrongs don't make a right.

Post 7 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:45:03

Hmm true but he had been under duress as the burglars had repeatedly bothered him and possibly he snapped..as for shooting the boy in the back...he didn't really have time to choose the site..but all the same he has admitted to doing the same thing again so possibly he's needing some kind of psychiatric assesment...

Post 8 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 11:47:16

possibly, but could it be, that considering he did it once, and although he did go to jail, he received a tremendous amount of support both from the media and from the general public, that he now thinks he's untouchable, and can pretty much do what he wants, plus, some people like that kind of attention.

Post 9 by wildebrew (We promised the world we'd tame it, what were we hoping for?) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 12:39:07

Call me heartless but if I felt threatened (and really seriously felt my life or a life of a loved one was threatened) by someone I'd kill them and somehow I don't think I would feel bad about it, if it's me or them and they got me into that situation (after all I could never see myself threatening others breaking in etc) they are just getting what they deserve. I think if you are being burgled you should not go to jail for killing the burgler or if you do for a very short time and you should be allowed to use whatever means you see fit to make sure you and your family are save from him/her and that the burgler cannot escape, if this involved tying or hitting the person really hard so be it, of course killing should always be a last resort but if I felt it was the only option open to me I would do it and I can honestly say it wouldn't bother me overly much, well at least I think so now but only when faced with these things will you know and I certainly hope it will never come to that.
Cheers
-B

Post 10 by Miss Gorgeous (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 24-May-2005 14:27:58

no i will never kill someone, maybe i can hurt them or use self defense to protect myself but never kill anyone and if i did for a good cause it will hunt me till the last moment.

Post 11 by Resonant (Find me alive.) on Wednesday, 25-May-2005 1:47:42

I think, in hot blood and an intense situation, I probably could. In cold blood though... no matter how necessary or defensible, I think I'd have serious problems. I wouldn't presume to know what sort of an emotional/psychological reaction would come afterwards.

Post 12 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Wednesday, 25-May-2005 7:35:45

I think that to kill to protect oneself is perhaps something which most of us would think twice about doing, but killing for your child is something that you only realize when you become a parent, that you would do without even thinking about it. even if someone hurt my child I would want to hurt them back in return.

Post 13 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Wednesday, 25-May-2005 9:15:11

Hmm I'm not entirely sure about that we all have the propensity to kill. It's a throwback to our cave dwelling days..when every able bodied man/woman and child had to be available to fight,we still retain much of that ability today.

Post 14 by bermuda-triangulese (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Wednesday, 25-May-2005 9:18:30

I would kill for me, and for anyone I loved deeply enough. I wouldn't look back. I wouldn't have regrets.

Post 15 by Twinklestar09 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Wednesday, 25-May-2005 13:42:06

I can't ever see myself intentionally killing or hurting someone else, even for self defense; I don't know why, but I can't. My reaction would be to try to get away from the person. If a loved one were in trouble, I can't say whether I would or wouldn't, but if I had to do something to keep them from being hurt, I'd probably want to do it quick like hit them hard with something where they'd either go unconscious or die on the first hit if that's possible. But if it did have to come to that, I know I'd feel really guilty about it or at least would never be able to forget it afterward.
Leilani

Post 16 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 27-May-2005 9:03:45

Tinkerbell would you be able to run when faced with a weapon, the instinct is to obey the gun ect..and do whatever is required to stay alive..but I'd be incredibly angry at being so helpless..

Post 17 by Twinklestar09 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 27-May-2005 12:31:45

I don't know how I'd react to a gun. If it were something like a knife or something like that, I think I could probably still get away from that, or at least try to. But since all he'd or she'd have to do with a gun is pull the trigger and the bullet could go thru almost anything, I know I'd be really afraid when it comes to that. I've thought of what I could do in that case, and I think I'd feel really helpless in that situation. And I'd feel really upset that I couldn't see to get the gun.
Leilani

Post 18 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Saturday, 28-May-2005 9:53:02

Hmm that's our problem the armed assailant would have total control no matter what the weapon...and that might annoy me enough that I would do something insane like trying to disarm them in spite of the risks...then again who knows..

Post 19 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Saturday, 28-May-2005 19:11:27

like fabolous stated, if someone i truly cared about was harmed, you bet ide have my hands on the person who harmed them, but in any other case, no, i wouldnt kill anyone.